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Jazz Get Past Raptors With Huge 4th   Leave a comment

Yet again, the Jazz had a really bad quarter. This time, they changed things up though, playing solidly in the first before sucking it up in the 2nd. I guess that happens when you turn to your bench and bring in a line-up of Flop, Harding & Knight. Flop has to be the worst player in the league, or right up there. And that’s counting all 2nd-round rookies this year, and all NBDLers that have been called up and even Jason Hart. Harding has been sucking it up for the past couple of games, and that continued. Brevin brings a veteran presence that the team probably needs. He also brings a terrible jumper, overconfidence on his own jumper, the innate ability to cause the offense to stall immediately, and more. Combine the 3 of them with AK (who loves to drive into the post all wild-like and then dish off to Flop) and Korver, and you’re going to have a hell of a time. In a bad way. By the way… passing to Flop should be an offense punished by immediate benching. Luckily for the Jazz, AK & KK carried the Jazz bench, scoring all 38 of the bench points. The rest of the bench (aka the other 3 guys already mentioned) went 0-5 with 3 assists, 1 TO, 4 fouls and 0 points.

Fortunately for the Jazz, Deron, Okur & ‘Sap (getting another start for the Injury Magnet) played well, overcoming off nights from CJ & Brewer, and teaming with AK & KK to lead the Jazz. Deron had 25 & 9, taking over late yet again. Okur couldn’t drain a trey, but went 9-17 for 19 & 11. ‘Sap finished with 18 & 11. Brewer had only 4 points on 6 shots (though he did throw in 5 assists), and CJ had 5 on 5. Truthfully, the game was ugly throughout, before the Jazz finally woke up late. They outscored the Raptors 28-14 in the last quarter, largely due to playing D and having the Raptors miss their jumpers. It ended up being enough, as the Jazz got a road win, something that we’ll take no matter who we’re playing.

Meanwhile, for the Raptors… Chris Bosh had 30 points & 10 boards (before choking?). Jose Calderon had 10 & 11, Anthony Parker had 16 & 11, Bargnani had 20 and 8, and The Matrix was held to 8 & 8. By the way, the caption to the picture is kinda telling for the Raptors. As are the polling results on the home page.

Here’s how the Jazz extended their streak to 11 games.

I’m not a big fan of the bench, outside of the top 3 (top 2 if the Injury Magnet turns on). Well, I like The Koof, but he gets less time on the court than the guys making mid-court shots for money. And Fesenko & Almond, but they’re both in the D-League right now. That leaves the top 3, the next 3 (mentioned above), and Ronnie Price. If this team is really dependent on anyone behind the top 3 for production (which they are, especially with Injury Magnet out), they’re in trouble. If the Brev Brev/Price duo has to play more than 5 minutes (well, just Brev Brev because J-Slow all of a sudden hates Ronnie Price), they’re in trouble. If Flop hits the court, they’re in trouble (and my TV is off if the game is on, but that is irrelevant). If Harding gets called on in any game that isn’t against the Spurs/Nuggets/etc., they’re screwed. I know this is true for most teams beyond the first couple of guys, but given the way injuries are hitting, the Jazz have to be prepared. Turning to Flop & Harding does not equal prepared. If you enter a playoff series against the Lakers/Spurs, and put Flop on the court, you will be laughed out of the building. And eventually run out of it as well.

This whole spiel is probably irrelevant now, given that the big FAs (like Drew Gooden and Joe Smith and Mikki Moore, etc.) have all signed, and the deadline to add players that can play in the playoffs (or something like that) has passed, but still… how the team can leave Flop on the roster and not go try to get someone that can help is beyond me. Hopefully it doesn’t come back to bite us in the backside…

That said, the Jazz won. Guess we might as well enjoy that. The last 5-game-Eastern-Conference-road-swing is underway, and the Jazz have a 1-0 start. Things could definitely have been a lot worse… and it seemed like they would be until 12 PM MST, when they finally woke up (they = Deron, it seems). Up next… the Pacers.

Jazz Roster Ranking   3 comments

BBJ over at SLC Dunk has this thing going where he’s ranking Jazz players from #15 to #1, with the following criteria…

Where I’m going with this is that I’m going to apply the same principle to the current Jazz roster. If you were an editor (GM) and had to start chopping off players, who would be the first ones to go?

We all know the players that are at the top and bottom of this list. The interesting thing will be to see when the axe falls for everyone in between.

There aren’t really any rules set in stone that I’ll go by. But I’ll take into account things such as stats, salaries, chemistry, team need, and whatever else I come up with. For the sake of this column, we’ll assume that everyone in the league has 15 players on their roster and that they’re having to make the same cuts.

If rosters were suddenly cut to 7, who would you want? If rosters were 5, who would you want? And so on. 3. We’ll also assume that everyone’s healthy.

His #15 to #11 can be found here, and #10 to #6 can be found here. I decided to partake, though without separating it into 3+ well thought out posts. Instead, I have 1 post with 1 sentence explaining my thoughts (at least partially). For those that know my thoughts about the Jazz, some of the rankings might be a bit of a surprise, but it’s how I seriously see it right now. (My list below)

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Cleveland 102, Utah 97   Leave a comment

In a recession, everyone suffers with money problems.


This might as well be a copy-and-paste from the Rockets game. Double-double for Deron (17 & 16) and ‘Sap (24 & 15), and not much else. Two others hit double-digits last night… Korver with 15 and Tonya Harding (read this) had 11. The Koof had 7 points on 3-9 shooting, Fesenko got time (where was he against Houston?) and 2 points… and a slap of LBJ (“The King” if you ask the NBA). King Jackass, if you ask me. I second what clarkpojo said in the game thread at SLC Dunk…

Before this season, I really really liked him. He had a certain humility to him, actually. But his ego has been huge this season. I started getting super bothered when he wouldn’t admit that he travelled against the Hornets and called the “crab dribble”, a move that has been around for about 50 years, his move. He is trying to be a little too big now.

Nails it on the head… and shows what’s wrong with the NBA… because the NBA is letting him get away with it all.

Okur struggled again… going 1-9 from the field and 0-4 from long range. I don’t know what’s up with him, but we need the Okur that went off for 43 points back. And now.

Other Notes
The second unit really kept the team in the game… Sideshow Bob had 5 fouls, and was killing the Jazz early, but when push came to shove, the Jazz stopped attacking the middle (3 FTs in the 2nd half) and settled for jumpers. At some point, don’t you have to attack the middle? Of course, I guess getting very few calls in your favor early (when they attacked, or when James charged over them) kinda limits your desire to attack. Plus you have ‘Sap, who rarely gets a call when he’s hammered… The Cavs were 10-27 from downtown. Um, defense?… Why no Ronnie Price? For all the awesomeness earlier, Brevin Knight has really been struggling of late.

The Jazz have another game tonight (in Denver). A home/road back-to-back, with airplane problems keeping them in SLC longer than expected. If you were someone who thought the Jazz should trade for Michael Redd, it’s not happening this year. Really unfortunate for the Bucks.

Jazz In Dallas Tonight   Leave a comment

Back-to-back games suck. Especially when I have work the day of.

Let’s see… the Jazz won yesterday in front of a very small crowd, needing some solid play late after almost blowing a relatively big lead. The Koof seems to have lost his spot in the rotation (due solely to the fact that he’s a rookie, of course… because his play has been solid) to Flop (uh oh)… Ronnie Price went from starter to DNP-CD… Korver is back out of the dog-house, and Flop made his first basket of the season last night. Oh, and Okur’s shot is MIA since the Pacers game. If you want some more bad, Deron had 8 TOs last night. That has to stop.

As for tonight…

  • The Mavs will be short-handed after their trade yesterday.

  • The Mavs have lost 4 straight games.
  • Dirk the Jerk hates the Jazz.
  • The Jazz are playing the 2nd half of a road-road back-to-back. Take what you want from that info.
  • Mark Cuban, hilarious. Too bad the MLB won’t let him buy the Pirates… and too bad all the other owners are scared out of their minds by a owner that actually cares about his team.

That’s that.

Pacers Come To Town   Leave a comment

Update: ‘Sap is out tonight. The Jazz offensive rebounding stat will be sure to take a hit. As will the Jazz interior offense. AK will get the start.

The Pacers come to town tonight, looking for a happy ending to a 5-game road trip that really hasn’t gone very well so far. They were blown out at Denver (135-115), and then after beating the Suns 113-110 on a buzzer beater, they’ve lost 2 straight close ones… falling to the Kobes 121-119, and then losing to the Dubs 120-117 last night.

Quick notes…

  • Yet again, Ronnie P. will get the start for CJ. It almost seems like J-Slow read this, and decided to go ahead with it… without making any transactions. I don’t know if that’s good or bad.

  • Empty The Bench joins the debate raging in Utah‘Sap or Booze? To note, if it’s one or the other… I completely agree with ETB. And important to keep in mind…

    It’s also hard to imagine Millsap, who will be represented by his uncle Brendrick Simmons, commanding the same asking price as the more high-profile Boozer. In fact, the difference in their projected salaries figures to be in the $4+ million per season range. Utah could use that money to shore up their bench up front or bring in another outside shooter or backup ball-handler. And while Boozer is undeniably more skilled on offense at this point, Millsap may have the greater upside being four years his junior. Millsap has already proven a superior defender.

  • News of Booze finally arrived. If you care, click the link. Because I really don’t. Just know this…

    Given the timetable, two Jazz players privately said they didn’t expect Boozer to return until after next month’s All-Star break.

  • It seems like the Pacers don’t like defense. Will someone on the Jazz go off for 25? And will this be a shootout, like your usual Warriors game, or will the Jazz play solid D and keep it relatively low scoring?
  • Some Pacers/Jazz trade ideas here and here. I’ll have to pass on both of those.
  • Another Jazz trade idea here, this time with the Clips. Again, no thanks… though the idea of Marcus Camby in the middle is kinda nice.
  • Indy Cornrows for your Pacers talk (the game thread is currently at the top).
  • Deron has been sick as of late, but practiced and will play tonight.

The Pacers feature ex-Blazer Jarrett Jack starting at PG, just in case you cared. I don’t know why you would, but eh. I might as well mention a couple of Pacers, no? They also feature Danny Granger, who has been solid this year (at worst). That said 50 points seems unlikely. Just ask SLC Dunk. Oh, and they feature Roy Hibbert, someone who the Jazz were really interested in as the draft rolled around. It didn’t work out, as Hibbert went a lot higher than expected, and the Jazz ended up with The Koof, who has been solid this year in the little time he gets.

Jazz Pound Pistons   Leave a comment

Solid win for the Jazz, as they win 99-82 on their home floor. They really helped their chances by shooting 53.5% from the floor, to 35.9% for the Pistons. It was enough of a blowout for Flop & Mo Nuts to get some action. Koufos, AK, Brewer & Price all had solid nights; ‘Sap saw his double-double streak end while playing only 22 minutes, and Deron still can’t buy a shot.

Player of the Game
—> Mehmet Okur: He absolutely dominated his former team yet again. He scored the first 8 Jazz points (and 11 of the first 14), and finished with 15 points in the first quarter on his own. He finished with 22 and 6, and went 8-9 from the field, including 3-3 from the 3-point line. He didn’t even attempt a FG in the 2nd half, due to a combo of foul trouble & blow-out benching-ness.

Jazz/Pistons Tonight   Leave a comment

The Jazz host the Pistons tonight… some quick things…

Still no news on the Booze injury, and Ronnie Price is going to start at the 2-guard instead of Morris Almond, as had originally been rumored.

The Pistons are coming off of a win last night in Denver (before that, a win in Clipperland and a loss in Portland), as they finish off their 4 game road swing tonight. They could be without Rip Hamilton & Rasheed Wallace… though they have won 8 of 9 without the 2.

That’s it really.

Detroit Bad Boys
Need4Sheed, with a mention that Rodney Stuckey could be out as well.

Bring Back Dee Brown?   2 comments

Well, for those of you that don’t know, the Suns released Dee Brown today. Though I’m guessing you all know that, because seriously… who doesn’t spend their Tuesday surfing the net to find out about ex-Jazzsters? Those of you that have also been paying attention to the Jazz know that the Jazz have really been struggling, and could really use a jump-start. I know there’s a lot of anti-Boozer sentiments out there, but I’m going to leave them alone because it is my greatest wish that they disappear. (Yeah, right.) Instead, I’ll propose something more minor than some blockbuster that would help the Jazz in the short-run (the player/players received in return for trading Booze for pennies on the dollar will be able to play right now while Booze can’t) and kill them in the long-run (no way the Jazz get players comparable to what a healthy Booze gives us).

It’s quite simple really. What the Jazz really need is a semi-serviceable big man who can be a presence inside for a year or so (though The Koof has been looking solid as of late). I don’t know which free agent you could chase after to fill that gap though. The other spot they need help right now is the wings, where the starting duo of CJ Miles & Ronnie Brewer just isn’t cutting it, and Kyle Korver’s shooting struggles aren’t helping. On the other hand, the Jazz have a couple of expendables in Matt Harpring, Jarron Collins (finally healthy, it seems, and an expiring contract) and Morris Almond (expiring contract because his rookie option wasn’t picked up). Some might even toss Kyrylo Fesenko or even Miles (if the deadline for not being able to trade him has passed) in there. Almond has shown a willingness to shoot… and shoot a lot. But his lack of other stuff (occasionally he show up in the rebound column) is hurting his chance to play… something that could happen to CJ sometime soon if he doesn’t step it up. Now, you’re not going to get much of a shooter of some weird combo of No Knees, Flop & Mo Almond (even if you throw Fesenko in there), and probably not much of a shooter straight up for CJ either. (Plus, I don’t see the Jazz trading CJ so soon after matching the offer sheet he got from OKC.)

What the Jazz should do, in my opinion, is try to trade 2 (or more) of the 4 guys (CJ can’t be packaged, if I remember correctly) for a big. Doesn’t have to be an All-NBA team guy or something… just someone that can come in behind Memo (and The Koof, if he shows a solid defensive presence) and maybe divert the opposing guards from driving to the hoop so often. Who’s available? I have no idea. Joe Smith of the Thunder is, but I’d pass. If they’d be willing to give up one of their other bigs though, maybe it’d be worth considering (Robert Swift, Johan Petro, Mouhamed Sene). Maybe one of the guys in New Jersey (Sean Williams, Josh Boone). Who knows? Just someone. Why would they take the guys the Jazz are offering? Well, there are a couple of expiring contracts (though relatively small). Or maybe they think they can utilize Mo Almond better than the Jazz are (wouldn’t surprise me in the least). Or maybe they want the veteranness & toughness of No Knees. Or maybe they think CJ is worth a look (if you trade CJ for a big, then you release one of the Fesenko/Flop duo). As I see it… if teams are willing to trade for a retired Aaron McKie or Jason Collins or the likes, there will be teams that wouldn’t mind No Knees or Flop.

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Jazz Pound Sixers To End 2008   Leave a comment

The Jazz sent 2008 out (well, it’s not over yet, but the Jazz don’t play any more games until after the calendar has turned to January) on a high note, bouncing back from the Houston 2OT loss to beat the Sixers down at the ESA, 112-95. It got to the point where we finally saw Ronnie Price (it had been a couple of games)… and Fesenko even got 1:46, proving that good games against Dallas & Houston mean jack as soon as someone returns from injury. What exactly is the point of stepping up when you get time then? Anyhow, enough with that. The Jazz won, and they won in blowout fashion. I guess what’s most surprising is that the Jazz were ahead by 15 after 3, and yet only 3 players on the bench seemed to get any real burn. Almond, Price, Fesenko… shouldn’t they be getting some time in blowouts? And it’s not like the Sixers had any huge run in the quarter to make it close. But eh… I guess that’s how J-Slow coaches.

Why the Jazz won…

  • Deron woke up, and seemed motivated last night for some reason. And he exploded. He went 11-18 from the field, and finally found his 3-point touch as well (4-6), finishing with 27 points & 6 assists. What’s surprising is that he only took 1 FT… either he’s still not driving (therefore settling for jumpers, which are always a more risky shot), or the refs don’t seem to be calling fouls no matter what. And while it’s not totally on him, Andre Miller ended up fouling out, being held to 5-12 shooting for 13 points in the game. Deron also only had 2 TOs, which is huge.

  • AK finally found some semblance of a shot, going 6-12 from the field. He also went 5-7 from the line, finishing with 16 points. He also added 13 rebounds, 3 steals, 3 assists & 3 blocks. On the other side, Thaddeus Young (8-14) & Andre Iguodala (6-12) each had 17 points on at least semi-good shooting nights. How much of that falls on AK, I have no idea.
  • Okur was strong in his return, going 7-14 from the field (1-2 from downtown), finishing with 19 & 10. He also had 3 assists & 2 steals. On the other side, Sam Dalembert missed a double-double with 7 & 10, going just 2-5 from the field. Marreese Speights had 10 points (4-7 shooting) and 3 fouls (nothing else on the stat sheet), I’m guessing some of that came at the 5-spot, given that Dalembert only got 22 minutes.
  • CJ & Brewer combined to go 9-16 for 22 points, with CJ having the better day stat-wise. Well, save for his 1-4 night from downtown, and the 5 fouls.
  • Korver & The Koof were both solid off of the bench. Korver was 3-7 from the field (2-4 from long range), finishing with 12 points & 5 assists. He also had 5 fouls against his former team. The Koof went 4-8 from the field, finishing with 9 points & 6 boards. The 3 TOs are a bit disappointing, but seeing him finish with 0 fouls is nice. The rest of the bench (save maybe Brevin, who went scoreless and had a 3:2 assist:turnover ratio while being the 3rd of 3 bench-guys to get double-digit minutes) played seemingly inconsequential minutes.

Why it was a blowout…

  • The Sixers shot 48.7% from the field, which really isn’t that bad. But the Jazz shot 51.2%, which is better. As it is, the Jazz took 4 more shots than the Sixers… and made 4 more as well.

  • The Sixers were 1-9 from downtown (Iggy’s 0-3 “led” the way); the Jazz were 8-18 (Deron’s 4-6, Korver’s 2-4).
  • The Jazz were 20-23 from the FT line, the Sixers were 18-25.
  • The Jazz had 4 more boards, and 5 more assists. Oh, and 1 less turnover… the 14 turnovers for the Jazz seems surprisingly low as compared to recent games.
  • The Jazz had 6 blocked shots, the Sixers had 0. 4 of the Jazz starters got in on the action, paced by AK’s 3.

The Jazz are now off until January 2nd, when they will be in LA playing the Kobes. The Kobes are on a 4 game winning streak, with road wins in Memphis & New Orleans being followed by home wins against Boston & Golden State (on Sunday). They’ll have an extra day of rest as compared to the Jazz… which could be either good or bad. The Kobes are averaging 107 points a game, aided a lot by the 17 ppg by Pau Gasol. As a comparison, the 4 players they gave up in the NBA approved highway robbery are averaging 16 points a game… but only 1 of the 4 players is even getting semi-good minutes. And that’s canceled out by the fact that another of the players isn’t even in the league… and wasn’t even in the league during the trade. It’s a good precedent though… I’ve always wanted to 1-up the Mailman for leaving us… maybe we can trade him with others to land LeBron. And the NBA can’t say no… because of the prior precedent set by the Kobes trade. Oh, and as no surprise… the team on top of each conference is the team that pulled off a NBA approved highway robbery. And they’re in big markets with teams that had glory years back in the ’80′s. Hm…

Enjoy the new year. And to the Jazz… please get healthy!

Injuries Galore   Leave a comment

The Jazz are down to 9 healthy players now. And that can’t be good with Dallas looming on the schedule.

F Carlos Boozer*Quad/knee*Won’t play
C Jarron Collins*Elbow*Won’t play
F Matt Harpring*Ankle*Will play
F Paul Millsap*Knee*Questionable
C Memo Okur*Back*Game-time decision
G Deron Williams*Calf*Probable

Oh, and if you want to add to that, there is this

Sloan also wasn’t too happy with Kyrylo Fesenko, whom he described as not being ready to play, and Kosta Koufos, who went 3-for-10 and left Sloan with the impression he was more interested in shooting than anything else.

And Siler nails it on the head (the above link) with this…

It seems pretty evident to me that the Jazz need to pick up another big man if Carlos Boozer is going to miss significant more time. Okur, Kirilenko and Millsap can hold things down for only so long.
Koufos and Fesenko appear alternately overmatched and confused. There’s no counting on Jarron Collins as long as he’s out with an injured right elbow. It’s not as easy as just signing a big man, since the Jazz already have 15 players under contract.

He mentions potentially trading one of our back-up PGs for one of their back-up bigs (Chris Mihm, DJ Mbenga, Josh Powell… though Powell is only 6’9). Maybe we go talk with OKC now that they’re going to sign (most likely) Nenad Krstic. We can’t give them CJ, but maybe someone else will peak their interest. And they have a trio of recent 1st-rounders (Mouhamed Sene, Robert Swift, Johan Petro) along with vets Chris Wilcox, Nick Collison & Kurt Thomas… though all 3 of the vets cost would cost in the Kyle Korver/No Knees range. Swift would cost a couple of players, Sene & Petro could be had for Flop or Price (or that range, not sure what the Thunder would want).

It’ll be interesting to see what the Jazz do… of course, it seems very likely that they’ll just stay put with the “loyal” players, even if they can’t play anymore. Because obviously the loyalty will be very important in drawing in LeBron & the likes in 2010.

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