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Injuries Galore   Leave a comment

The Jazz are down to 9 healthy players now. And that can’t be good with Dallas looming on the schedule.

F Carlos Boozer*Quad/knee*Won’t play
C Jarron Collins*Elbow*Won’t play
F Matt Harpring*Ankle*Will play
F Paul Millsap*Knee*Questionable
C Memo Okur*Back*Game-time decision
G Deron Williams*Calf*Probable

Oh, and if you want to add to that, there is this

Sloan also wasn’t too happy with Kyrylo Fesenko, whom he described as not being ready to play, and Kosta Koufos, who went 3-for-10 and left Sloan with the impression he was more interested in shooting than anything else.

And Siler nails it on the head (the above link) with this…

It seems pretty evident to me that the Jazz need to pick up another big man if Carlos Boozer is going to miss significant more time. Okur, Kirilenko and Millsap can hold things down for only so long.
Koufos and Fesenko appear alternately overmatched and confused. There’s no counting on Jarron Collins as long as he’s out with an injured right elbow. It’s not as easy as just signing a big man, since the Jazz already have 15 players under contract.

He mentions potentially trading one of our back-up PGs for one of their back-up bigs (Chris Mihm, DJ Mbenga, Josh Powell… though Powell is only 6’9). Maybe we go talk with OKC now that they’re going to sign (most likely) Nenad Krstic. We can’t give them CJ, but maybe someone else will peak their interest. And they have a trio of recent 1st-rounders (Mouhamed Sene, Robert Swift, Johan Petro) along with vets Chris Wilcox, Nick Collison & Kurt Thomas… though all 3 of the vets cost would cost in the Kyle Korver/No Knees range. Swift would cost a couple of players, Sene & Petro could be had for Flop or Price (or that range, not sure what the Thunder would want).

It’ll be interesting to see what the Jazz do… of course, it seems very likely that they’ll just stay put with the “loyal” players, even if they can’t play anymore. Because obviously the loyalty will be very important in drawing in LeBron & the likes in 2010.

KOC Is Captain Obvious; Trades?   1 comment

Just in case you were worried that the Jazz might forget that they had reached the roster limit (15 players) and might accidentally sign a 16th guy, KOC came out to let you know that it ‘probably’ won’t happen.

“We’re done with signing probably any free agents,” O’Connor said, “but we’re certainly not done continuing to look at working our roster to improve ourselves.”

I don’t understand the inclusion of the “probably” in there… first, the team has to be done (they’ve reached the max) and second, it makes for a very ugly sentence.

“There’s conversations going on daily,” O’Connor said.

That’s probably dealing with trades, no? On that topic, there is this article from RealGM. While the main focus is on Nenad Krstic heading to Russia (which he has since done), it is something else that could be of interest to Jazz fans…

New Jersey is heavy on forwards, and according to the article Sean Williams and Stromile Swift are believed to be on the trading block.

I posted a fanpost about this over at SLC Dunk… here’s what I said then…

Using the RealGM trade checker, a straight-up deal could be Swift for Harpring. They’d probably want a 1st rounder or something (after all, it is Harpring)… the Jazz don’t have a 1st rounder in 2009 (to the Sixers in the Korver trade)… not sure about 2nd rounders. The Jazz have a couple of 1st rounders in 2010… I highly doubt they use the Knicks one though. Swift’s contract expires after the season, No Knees has 1 year left after the season.

Sean Williams could go straight up for Price or Brewer, though I don’t see the Jazz doing that. Price is in the last year of his contract, Brewer has 1 year left on his rookie contract. Another option would be Williams for Almond & Fesenko, though I’m not sure if the Jazz would want to part with both of them, though Williams could/would be a shot-blocking presence inside.

Another option is a combo-deal… Harpring, Flop & picks as need be for Swift & Williams. Not sure if the Nets would want another Collins though… they just got rid of theirs last year (for Swift, no less).

Sean Williams comes in at 6’10, and averaged 5.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg and 1.5 bpg in 73 games last year (17.5 mpg). He shot 53.8% from the field and 60.9% from the line. There are some off-court issues from his college days though.

Stromile Swift got 6.1 ppg, 3.6 rpg and 1.0 bpg in 56 games last year (15.1 mpg). Over his career, he’s averaged 8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg and 1.2 bpg. He shot 50.9% from the field last year, raising his career average to 47.4%. His career FT% is 70.3%, though he was at 67% last year.

The thing is, if you look at the Nets depth chart right now, what they really seem to need is a PG. They have 7 wings (and we think we have a problem), 4 4’s, and 3 5’s. So maybe they wouldn’t want Almond or No Knees or Flop or Fesenko though. Would Price or Knight be enough? And would it be worth it on our end to give up our back-up PG (who has shown the ability to spell Deron effectively) to get another “big”?

I’m just guessing here though… who knows what they want.

Thoughts? Ideas? Opinions? Am I out of my mind?

I’m still holding out hope, but there are some issues to clear up. First, can Knight be traded in a combo-deal? I’m not sure, but there might be restrictions due to the fact that the Jazz just acquired him. I know we have to wait 30 or whatever days from the day he was acquired or something, but yeah. Second… the Jazz can’t trade their own 2010 first rounder, because you can’t trade 1st rounders in consecutive years. So it would have to be a 2011 pick, if the Nets demanded a first rounder.
Even then though, and even with Sean Williams’ off-court issues in college, I’d make an offer. He’d be an immediate upgrade defensively in the middle, and is still fairly young. So… do the Nets & Jazz match up?

Posted August 2, 2008 by S S in Rumors, Trades that work


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